Well, Glory Be, Donald!

[Your Uncle Sam]

---

---

A QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY

You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake

'I always said I wanted to know if it was real'

---

Posted: May 25, 2011
8:25 pm Eastern

© 2011 WND

 

 

Donald Trump

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the "birth certificate" released by the White House is forged.

His comments came yesterday in a telephone call to WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., who is appearing on wall-to-wall radio programs – between 10 and 20 per day – to respond to questions about his latest best-seller, "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama is Not E...

Trump asked Corsi about the book, its evidence and what is happening next in the effort to document whether Obama is, in fact, constitutionally qualified for the presidency under Article 2, Section 1's "natural born citizen" requirement.

Get the inside details on what could be the most serious constituti...

Trump said his period of almost-complete silence on the issue following the release by the White House on April 27 of the image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the state of Hawaii was not because he was satisfied with the document.

"I always said I wanted to know if it was real," Trump told Corsi.

The image has been challenged by a number of experts in the field, and the original, of course, has yet to be seen, much less analyzed.

The state of Hawaii said it inserted "safety paper" into a copy machine and copied onto the new paper the original image from its state records. However, state officials were unwilling to confirm to WND after the image was released that what was issued by the White House was, in fact, an accurate representation of their original records.

During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.

That opinion has been repeated many times, and WND has reported on a few of the objections that have been raised by various experts:

• Ivan Zatkovich, of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, for example, analyzed the various layers in the PDF file released by the White House, and concluded: "The content clearly indicates that the document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it was placed on the web."
  
  The image that was released, described by the White House as "proof positive" of Obama's Hawaiian birth:
  
  

  Image released by the White House April 27, 2011

  
  Zatkovich, with 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years an expert witness providing testimony in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation, said the multiple PDF document layers are unusual.
  
  "When a paper document is scanned on a scanner and saved as a PDF file it normally contains only a single layer of graphical information. The PDF that appears on the White House website however, contains multiple layers of graphic information. Multiple layers usually appear in a document like this when it is being edited or modified in some fashion.
  
  "It is possible to take a single layer PDF and inadvertently create multiple layers, without changing the image in any fashion. But that does not appear to be the case here. The multiple layers in the PDF document are a result of changes made to the image," his report said.
  
  Among the various items that were separated into different layers include the main text, themother's occupation, the dates accepted, the stamp and signature of the state registrar and the time stamp of the state registrar:
  
  

  The document is broken into layers.

  
  The background layer – with all of the additional layers removed – essentially has the text removed except some random portions of signatures and a white border where the text appears on other layers:
  
  

  The background, without layers of information added on top

  
  Also, the main layer of text reveals most of the wording on the document, with strange exceptions such as the first part of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama's signature. The main text layer has only "unham Obama." Likewise, "Kenya" is spelled "enya" and "Barack" is spelled Ba ack."
  
  

  The layer with the main parts of the text

• Secondly, Karl Denninger, the former of CEO of MCSNet, a Chicago ne... said the presence of "kerning" in the text confirms manipulation.
  
  Denninger posted a series of reports online, including on YouTube, where he explains his concerns, which focus around the lettering as it appears on the document that reportedly is a photocopy on green "safety paper" of the original record in Hawaii

  He explains that the type on the birth document show evidence of "kerning," the squeezing of letters into a line so that they intrude into adjacent letter spaces. Kerning is routine since the advent of word processors and computers, but impossible with a typewriter.

   

   

  Denninger explains that in the image above, of the name of the hosp...

  "This process, of course, requires that you know what the next letter is. With a computer this is pretty easy, since the computer can retroactively go back and adjust, and it also can typeset the current letter with the knowledge of what the previous one was," he reported. "A typewriter, on the other hand, is a mechanical device. It does not know what the next letter is that you will type, nor does it know what the last letter was that you typed. It thus has a typeface that always leaves physical space between the boundary of each character."

  His full explanation is on video:

  "To refute this point you must come up with a typewriter that contains a flux capacitor and thus is capable of accurately predicting the future," he said. "This document has been assembled by somebody on a computer."

  He contends "there's only one way we're going to get the truth – a ...

• Then there was a YouTube poster, who identified himself as orangego... and posted a video that claimed the White House either was ignorant in posting the document, or was submarined by someone inside the walls who wanted people to suspect the document. 
  

Perhaps most significant unresolved issues is that two weeks before Obama finally released his "long-form birth certificate," Hawaii's former Health Department chief Chiyome Fukino – the one official who claimed to have examined Obama's original birth document – was interviewed by NBC News' national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certi...

However, the document released by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were "handwritten." What Fukino described is apparently a different document from what Obama released to the public.

Among other questions that remain about the document:

• The objectivity of "experts" cited by the mainstream media to verify the birth certificate is suspect, including that of Fox News Channel's Jean-Claude Tremblay, who assured America they "should not be suspicious" of the document, but who, WND discovered, had heralded Obama's election victory in an online post.
• Obama's posted birth certificate contains the same anomalies as a well-known forgery that claimed he was born in Kenya, suggesting the anomalous markings came from the same source. "How could Obama's 'real' birth certificate share these unique characteristics with an obvious forgery?" asks Farah. "For the life of me, I can't figure out an answer other than they were created by the same person or persons." 
  
  
• The birth certificate's reported delivering physician, Dr. David Sinclair, differs from previously published reports and even the myth-busting Snopes.com's original entry, which named Dr. Rodney T. West as the doctor of record.
• Obama's purported birth certificate contains over a dozen differences in form from the verified, Hawaii copy of the birth certificate issued to the Nordyke twins, born the next day at the same reported hospital.
  
  
• The local registrar listed in the Nordyke twins' birth certificate is notably different than the local registrar on the Obama birth certificate.

• Though Obama was born before the Nordyke twins, and though his birth was filed with the registrar three days before the twins' birth, Obama's purported birth certificate has a higherregistration number.
• The age of Obama's father, as listed on the document, conflicts with previously discovered documents about Barack Obama Sr.
• There are no notations on the document indicating Obama's adoption by his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, as are often made – even replacing the name of the birth parents – when a child in the U.S. is adopted.

In addition, the SmokingGun.com website notes several irregularities with the Obama birth certificate that do not appear on the Nordyke twin's birth certificates:

• In Box 3, "This Birth," there are two "Xs" above "Twin" and "Triplet" – why are these "Xs" here and what do they signify?

 

 

• What is the meaning of the smudges in the Obama birth certificate in the box containing the name of the attending physician?

 

 

• What is the significance of the numbers, seen vertically, on the right side of the Obama birth certificate?

 

 

There are those Obama critics, too, who says that the document released by the White House, if authentic, actually proves Obama's ineligibility. They cite the indication that Barack Obama Sr. was listed as the father, but he never was a U.S. citizen. They contend those who wrote the requirement for presidents to be a "natural born citizen" disqualified dual citizens at birth, such as Obama.

Obama Jr. himself even seemed to hold that position, suggesting in a resolution he co-sponsored to address Sen. John McCain's status as a "natural born Citizen" that the status requires "American citizen" parents.

Listen to Corsi's account of the conversation with Trump:

"I told him he needs to publicly say that the document in the vault, the original long-form birth certificate, needs to be exposed and examined independently," Corsi said. "The doctor's records, the Kapiolani records of Ann Dunham to corroborate she was in that hospital."

"I told him if you don't press these issues you can't be surprised if there are those who think you're working with Barack Obama [on the dispute]," Corsi added.

During much of April Trump made regular appearances on talk shows and news broadcasts, and almost every time either he or the interviewer raised questions about Obama's eligibility. At the same time, he regularly was in conversation with Corsi and others who helped Corsi investigate the Obama eligibility dispute about the evidence that exists.

As a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll demonstrated, by raising questions about Obama's eligibility repeatedly, going as far as suggesting Obama's tenure might be illegal, Trump rose in popularity among GOP voters.

In that poll, 19 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they'd likely support Trump for the 2012 GOP nomination.

His support rose from only 10 percent just a month earlier.

WND has reported on Trump's statements regarding Obama's eligibility:

"There's something fishy about the whole thing," Trump has said of Obama's background, birth story and constant refusal to release a wide range of documents that would reveal information about his heritage and upbringing.

Trump has also been skeptical regarding the oft-cited 1961 Honolulu newspaper notices.

"I see so much fraud in this world, an ad like that could have been staged. I see so many fraudulent things going on that would be like the least of it," Trump said.

He suggested it was incredible that no doctor, nurse or other person has come forward to recall the birth of such a famous person.

Trump told Fox News host Bill O'Reilly the significance of the dispute isn't clear to many people.

"If you are going to be the president of the United States you have...

Trump also was on MSNBC, where he was asked whether it was a serious issue:

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

"There is certainly a chance that he was not born in this country. Now if he was not born in this country, that means he can't be president. It's very simple," Trump explained.

[Sandra]

Thanks Gordon...

[Gordon Ray Kissinger]

You can listen to Conservative Monster's May 19, 2011 interview with Jerome Corsi here:

http://theconservativemonster.com/2011/05/17/interview-with-jerome-...

[PHILIP SCHNEIDER]

That interview with Corsi is what puts doubt in my mind about Trump's motive's.

Is that BIG money, Trump's being paid by NBC for more "Apprentice shows, part of our "Stimulus" money being funneled to NBC as a payoff for the Donald to be a mole?

That "Stimulus" money IS being used to re-elect Obama and will continue to be used by SEIU, Coporations like GM, ACORN, ACLU, and others to guarantee his re-election.

[Sandra]

As I recall in the video with Alex ones, Corsi has some reservations as to the Donald's motives... Him askingto be informed before Corsi makes whatever his next move is before he does it, is suspicious. Listen to that video on the video section...  He maybe just a mole? Apparently a lot of money was given to the station that carries his program so it will be continuing... He will NOT be running for President... I wonder if we will find out if and when those charges are filed this week with the FBI?

[PHILIP SCHNEIDER]

Today, I don't know and I can't tell if Trump is a willing accomplice, an inquisitive Billionaire, or a candidate for the office of president.