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Will Obama's Secrecy Finally Precipitate a Constitutional Crisis?

Over the years, I and many others have delved into the matter of Obama's ineligibility to hold the office of President of the United States, and have carefully explained the bases for our very serious doubts regarding his qualifications.

One of those concerns was raised by me in my December 2008 blog post cited below, in which I questioned Obama's presidential ineligibility on the basis of his likely being an Indonesian citizen, a citizenship status which may not have been legally remedied by Obama when he returned to the United States and before his presidential run in 2008.

"And when young Obama was taken to Indonesia by his adoptive Indonesian parent, Lolo Soetoro, where he attended a school to which only Indonesian citizens were permitted to enroll and where school records list OBH's citizenship as Indonesian, shouldn't a reasonable person be expected to ask questions? Or was that simply a matter of fraudulent enrollment? Who knows?"


Now, all hell is breaking loose yet again. Unlike any President before him, "Mr. Transparency" is definitely keeping the mysteries about his background and doubts about his eligibility painfully alive.


Wayne Root of RootforAmerica, a 1983 Columbia graduate, the same year Obama was reportedly graduated from Columbia, is reporting that none of his fellow pre-law/PoliSci classmates at Columbia have any knowledge or recollection of either a Barack Obama or of a Barry Soetoro in their class, the latter being Barack's adoptive Indonesian moniker. 


More importantly--and as many of us have questioned for a very long time now--Root asks how Obama, of limited financial means, financed his Ivy League education. So, buttressed by a report from a Breitbart investigator in Jakarta who telephonically confirmed to Root earlier today that he has impeccable proof that Obama, aka Soetoro, was/is an Indonesian Citizen, Root speculates that Barack, or whatever his legal name may be, most likely relied upon his "foreign student" status to access the needed funding and that this is precisely the reason why Obama has sealed his college records--that reason being to conceal the fact that he, Obama, aka Soetoro, is not a US Citizen and, thus, ineligible to be President.

To this very day, US Citizen Barack Obama or Indonesian Citizen Barry Soetoro remains a proverbial puzzle wrapped in an enigma, and until his real identity and presidential eligibility are proven without a shadow of a doubt the Republic remains in mortal danger. 

If Root's speculation is on the mark, and with Sheriff Arpaio's investigative posse relentlessly on Obama's tail,  it is not unrealistic to conclude that a constitutional crisis of the first order is surely at hand: we may actually see an imposter President and a host of Democratic Party co-conspirators arrested and tried for assorted felonies and treason. The exposure of a putative president would precipitate an unprecedented crisis which our nation must face and a crisis we can and should endure. And the sooner the better. 

And here's to you, Senator Reid, and your fellow DNC apparatchiks. My profound thanks for finally opening Pandora's Box. You want Romney's tax returns? Fine. For a start, we want Obama's college records. ALL of them--his applications for admission and his grades.  (Gee, do I hear the pitter-patter of scurrying cockroaches? Yup! I believe I do.)


God save the Republic.

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Comment by Jim Delaney on August 9, 2012 at 4:06pm

Philip,

Though I've never really doubted his US Citizenship, his "natural born citizenship" is quite another matter. On the NBC issue, the shameless and nonstop disinformation and obfuscation on the part of his acolytes and apologists have been nothing short of mind-boggling and infuriating.

One thing this sorry episode has taught me: if intelligent, hard-working, educated and otherwise upright Germans can be persuaded to buy into and excuse tyranny, then ANY person anywhere can also succumb. That's extremely troubling.

Sadly, while the truth inevitably comes out, it is often at a terrible price to both innocents and perpetrators alike. In the end, however, we may all have to pay that awful price. Just hope it's sooner rather than later. Would be nice to get it all behind us.

Another concern: IF Barry is denied a second term, will all of these matters be properly investigated and appropriate punishment meted out to all violators? I honestly don't know what I can reasonably expect anymore. With this prospect staring Barry and his Progressive minions in the face, I reckon they will stop at NOTHING to avoid a defeat at the ballot box. And that should give us all pause. It's going to be one helluva six months before us. Anything can happen.

Comment by PHILIP SCHNEIDER on August 9, 2012 at 1:02pm

Jim,

If your research answers even ONE dishonest claim of Obama about his citizenship(s), we owe you a debt of gratitude. Because when one domino falls the rest will follow.

Comment by Jim Delaney on August 9, 2012 at 12:19pm

In between everything else, I quickly checked out my three immigration reference books.

Clearly, Barry, being under 18, could not renounce his US Citizenship.

However, what I cannot absolutely determine is if Indonesia recognized dual citizenship at that time. I don't think they did. If not, then how did Barry become an Indonesian Citizen as reported by a Breitbart investigator in Jakarta? Did his adoptive Indonesian dad, Lolo Soetoro, commit fraud in Indonesia in order to obtain Barry's Indonesian citizenship documents which both enabled Barry's enrollment in public school there as well as Barry's travelling  to Pakistan at a time when Americans were disallowed entry? Not terribly salient questions, but part of the whole ball of wax.

More importantly, since Breitbart investigator claims to have irrefutable proof of Barry's Indonesian Citizenship, can a dual citizen (American and Indonesian in this case, for example) legally apply for F-1 or J-1 student status in the US? If so, can s/he do so AFTER s/he has re-entered the US of A? Everything I've so far read is that a foreign student must apply at an American Consulate overseas BEFORE entry; that s/he must, in fact, be a bonafide foreigner; that to change their non-immigrant status (which Barry apparently wasn't) after entry requires considerable, if not insuperable, hoops to navigate. And if Barry was a US Citizen, despite his dual citizenship, how could he have been even remotely eligible for F-1 or J-1 status? More fraud by his having hidden his dual citizenship from school authorities? On a separate note, I had read some time ago that a Palestinian friend, Kalihi, had arranged college funding from Arab benefactors for US Citizen Barry's higher education expenses. If true, that would render the issue of dual citizenship irrelevant for purposes of determining how Barry was financially able to attend Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. But, it he did attend those schools, why did none of his classmates know of him? Were the universties paid off by Kalihi's well-heeled friends? Who knows?

Endless questions still.

Still searching, but, at the moment, I have considerably more questions than answers about Mr. Enigma. And we all know Barry WON"T divulge his sealed records. So, the mystery, the questions, the anxiety continues.

Comment by Jim Delaney on August 9, 2012 at 9:05am

Maureen,

I had heard of this part of the law as well, but hadn't delved into it. I will now.

Might Barry not have enjoyed dual citizenship? Apparently so since he would have been required to be an Indonesian citizen to enroll in public school there. If so, did Indonesia recognize dual citizenship? How did Barry's Indonesian father pull that off?

By relying on his Indonesian citizenship by adoption, Barry may have gamed the system in order to garner the financial benefits of a foreign exchange student. Felony? Also, and most importantly, would the framers have recognized a dual citizen as being eligible to be president? I seriously doubt it. To put the dual citizenship problem to rest, wouldn't Barry have been required to jettison his Indonesian citizenship upon his return to the USA, or to at least cover it up, this to eliminate any qualification issues to run for prez?

Thanks for resurrecting 249(a)(5). I will explore these angles further.This enquiring mind wants to know.

Comment by david roberts on August 8, 2012 at 11:40pm

maureen, the only salient point in the whole issue

Comment by Maureen Gerrish on August 8, 2012 at 10:09pm

But even though Mr. Obama might be a US citizen, he remains ineligible to hold the office of Pres. because he is not a Natural Born Citizen as BOTH parents were not US citizens.

Comment by Maureen Gerrish on August 8, 2012 at 9:57pm

Excerpt from: http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship

A. THE IMMIGRATION & NATIONALITY ACT

Section 349(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(5)) is the section of law that governs the ability of a United States citizen to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. That section of law provides for the loss of nationality by voluntarily performing the following act with the intent to relinquish his or her U.S. nationality:

...

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

Comment by david roberts on August 8, 2012 at 10:56am

don't hold your breath

Comment by PHILIP SCHNEIDER on August 8, 2012 at 10:44am

We've been covering this eligibility issue for a few years now. Obama is STILL in our White House and in line for a second term. States have certified Obama on the November ballot. When will Obama be stopped?

A thousand lawyers and a democrat machine bent on subterfuge, lies, coverups, etc. have been successful thus far.

When will We the People prevail?

Comment by chris ralls on August 8, 2012 at 9:26am

Great Post, luv the part (so true) pitter-patter of scurrying cockroaches, Dems and Repubs esp. McCain.  He knows the truth about O's heritage and faith.  Hussein Obama is a Muslim and an alien.

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