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October 2, 2013

 

When the House passed legislation to defund ObamaCare but would keep thegovernment running through mid-December, the Senate, led by Senate Majority Leader, Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) stated that they would not budge on Obamacare and the legislation was defeated.

On Monday, Dr. Harold Pease, an expert on the United States Constitutionstated that the authority in dealing with Obamacare funding belongs to the U.S. House, not the U.S. Senate and that the House is doing this all wrong.

Pease said, “Everything hinged upon funding which was given exclusively to the House of Representatives, the only power that they alone had.”

Pease went on to say, “All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. To fund anything, in this case Obamacare, first approval is required by the House of Representatives.”

“If that does not happen taxpayer money cannot be spent. The people, through their representatives to Congress, have determined, after a three-year closer scrutiny of The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), that it does not protect the patient, is not affordable and is not even workable; hence in the interests of the vast majority of the people needs to be defunded.”

When the United States Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare in 2012, Chief Justice Roberts stance on Obamacare coincides with the intent of the U.S. Constitution, explained by Pease, and the powers between the House and Senate.

According to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Obamacare cannot be implemented and is not considered the law of the land, contrary to Democrat claims.

Bubba Atkinson of the Independent Journal Review, citing conservative blogger, I.M. Citizen,wrote, “Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That is how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything, ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.”

“Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax,” said Atkinson. “He struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — “comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.” Roberts ruled that is a no-no.

When the House attached Obamacare to the legislation in funding the government, it made a mistake in doing so and the funding of Obamacare should have been separate, thereby giving the Senate no power in denying the Houses’ request to defund Obamacare.

Pease said, “House opposition to funding Obamacare would have been far more powerful if made a “stand alone” bill not attached to general funding, but it is not. “Stand alone,” having no other parts, would have left the Senate no wiggle or compromise room once it went to them, nor would there be for the Joint Conference Committee thereafter that reconciles any differences between the two houses. There would be nothing to reconcile, Obamacare is merely defunded.”

“Still, the intent of the Founding Fathers was to give the people, through their House of Representatives, the power collectively to say no to any proposed federal tax, which she is decidedly doing.”

[Edited for clarity] If Obamacare is removed from the government budget, presented, and voted on as a separate bill, Obamacare can be defunded by the House. If that is the case, then the Senate and the President can vote yes or no and if the vote is no, then the Obamacare bill can sit in the House with no funding.

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FURTHERMORE:

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USS Obamacare Is Going Down And The IRS Is Going Down With It

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts could go down in American history as the man who laid the foundation for the termination of the IRS, and ultimately ended Obamacare.

If Obamacare is a, “tax,” it is dependent upon tax enforcement via the IRS.

How does America get rid of Obamacare?

Get rid of the tax.

Remember the Stamp Act? The Tea Act? Once a tax, not always a tax.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/NationalTaxExpertDisputes/Decr…

A recent CNN Money article states that government budget cuts of over $600 million to the IRS may result in layoffs of IRS employees, which includes examiners who audit tax returns.

—- full article linked above

FOLLOW THE MONEY…

http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/irs-pressures-build-budgeta…

The recent budget sequestration that took effect on March 1, 2013, has further reduced the IRS’s budget, triggering an additional 5% cut of approximately $600 million.

Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller recently warned a Congressional subcommittee that these cuts will likely cause the IRS to bring in “substantially less” than the $2.52 trillion in taxes collected in fiscal 2012. Due to the sequestration and previous cuts, the IRS has seen its funding cut by more than $900 million in the past two years.

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The IRS has been getting squeezed by sequestration.

Add a huge IRS scandal on top of the Obamacare Tax, and just picture a bullseye for republicans to hit.

Defund Obamacare by continuing to defund the IRS.

The IRS and Obamacare are both joined at the hip.

If one goes down, they will both sink.

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And I thought the Delphic Oracle was a tough act to follow. Wow!

The article is Interesting, but am afraid it is unhelpful, and even contrived.

I had read this piece on another site and still have the same reaction. Despite the Roberts gratuitous ruling that the mandate is a tax because a mandate is unconstitutional, from SCOTUS's standpoint alone Obamacare  is constitutional because, in Roberts's view, it was a tax, a power of Congress.

That said, any neophyte can see that healthcare is being mandated, whether Roberts and SCOTUS mystifyingly call it a tax or a mandate, and, of course, it is unconstitutional and in violation of the 10th Amendment.But, so long as Obamacare is viewed by Congress as  constitutional law then what the House has been doing, i.e. sending funding proposals piecemeal to the Senate for latter's required stamp of approval--and omitting Obamacare funding--is what the House HAS been doing, but sadly to no avail so far.

 

To cut thru all the smoke and mirrors and Delphic analyses like that of Pease, the only way to stop the Obamacare madness is STATE NULLFICATION. If South Carolina can nullify it, which it has, so can the others. The others just need to find their constitutional spine.

You're right Jim. If Boehner and McConnell won't use the power of of the purse in the House to stop Obamacare, then it's up to US to do it at state level or a personal level or at whatever level will achieve the necessary end point we ALL know is necessary.

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